[Gamora smiles warmly as something comes to mind. She thinks of the day she finally admitted to Alice who they were to each other.] Children love when you share something from your past with them. Peter shared his music with our son Groot. Now I've done the same with Alice. I let her listen to the songs Peter shared with me and our son. Before Peter, his mother shared the same music with him. It brought her great joy to be a part of that legacy. Share parts of yourself with her.
As for the rest, as long as we can both come to an understanding on what's best for Alice we'll survive each other. I constantly fought with the men who helped me parent Groot, especially the man I later took as a partner. We always did what was best for him. That was why it worked.
[Gamora adds:] I still think bringing a baby into battle was foolish.
I'd think it depends on the age of the 'baby', but then--Asgardians were a warrior culture. I believe I even heard some whispers about Frigga having taken Thor out when he was very very young, into battle. Given what I know of Mother, I'm certain she did so with a very good reason in mind.
When I first met Alice, I did tell her that I won't necessarily give her 'good' advice. But I shall try to not give her bad advice. We were having a conversation involving choosing our trouble. The 'good' advice would be to 'stay out of trouble' all together. But neither she nor I would likely follow that...
That father was from a warrior culture as well. He insisted on it being vital for proper development. [Gamora still sounds annoyed about it to this day. She looks back on it fondly as well. She can't help the soft laugh that escapes her. It sounds like the family she may build here won't be any less complicated.]
It's just as well. I can make a habit of getting you both out of it. It's what I did with the family I found after Thanos.
That is part of why I suggested as such, and offered to advise her--which lead to her inviting me to live here. That I'd do what I could to get her out of it too.
[There's a slow smirk, a hint of pride but also amusement, with his next words.]
I'm rather good at getting out of trouble, whether it's my own or other's, as well. At least you and Alice seem the types to appreciate trickery and illusion being useful instead of always depending on brute force.
[Once again the conversation brings up good memories. Loki is right of course. She values those skills. They got far on Peter's and Rocket's trickery alone.] Believe it or not, that's how the Guardians managed to save the galaxy twice. Ronan and the celestial Ego were far more powerful than us. We were more clever than each of them together.
[She wistfully and decides to state plainly:] I do appreciate the skills you bring to this home.
[That had surprised him, and it showed for a second or two in his expression. Then he was chuckling softly.]
Well, they weren't often appreciated much growing up. Magic, and illusions and tricks, were not seen as becoming of a warrior, much less a Prince. But they served well enough to get us out of trouble as often as we got into it too. Nor was it all my own fault for the trouble either.
Until I regain those skills though, we'll have to rely on my intelligence and cunning. But I value your wider experience with things among the universe.
[That is disappointing to hear. Gamora doesn't look surprised to hear that. Thanos had her kill a fair share of kings with similar attitudes.] Some warriors can be narrow-minded. Even Drax occasionally forgets it's not our blades that win the larger battles. Those skills will be more than helpful to us. We have our share of battles here. Godslayer will only take us so far.
[She doesn't have her enhancements back yet. In all fairness, she hasn't asked for them. She only swallowed her pride to get back her sword when they started going after the dragons. It'll take something just as big for her to try to get back all the changes Thanos made to her physiology.]
Asgardians were the strongest beings in the nine realms--it made it rather easy to value brute force and strength. Magic was often seen as a woman's art too. I was doubly disadvantaged because of my magic, but also by not being an asgardian. I'm a Jotun--a frost giant.
[There's a long pause, as he's clearly considering something. Before making blue-green eyes meet her own.]
It has been a new experience, being here--and having people respect and value what I can do. To not treat me as wrong, or different, or the eternal tag-a-long. I was never 'enough'. Never 'worthy'.
[Gamora listens without comment. The attitudes are not new even if she never had to suffer it. Thanos was a great believer in equality to a horrific and mundane extent. The girls he tortured had as much possibility to become great warriors against their wills as the boys. She is empathetic all the same. It is unfair and ridiculous. That is the life he lived. Being a prince didn't spare him.
The Jotun have never been popular among the greater galaxy either. Gamora takes these things into careful consideration as she forms a reply. It means something he has trusted her with this. Much like Peter before him, she doesn't betray or dismiss that vulnerability.] There are prejudices everywhere but, not among us as far as I can tell. Take this as the opportunity it is. People here will continue to see you as you are.
[She twirls one of her rings, forces herself to maintain eye contact, and decides to elaborate.] To me, you survived Thanos with your soul intact. You still allow yourself to care for someone as vulnerable as a Terran girl after seeing his horrors up close. You have enough wisdom to understand that very few wished to be in his service willingly.
I will not speak ill of the people you lost and were meant to lead once. I can only say I cannot agree with them. You have shown honor and strength under circumstances that have destroyed others. That has great value in my eyes.
[Loki was normally very good at controlling his expressions from others. But the more she spoke, the more she would see he was...surprised. Confused, and surprised, and oddly vulnerable. No one had spoken him to this way before other than his mother, in a long time. Despite his age, Gamora can see how 'young' he is as well, in blue-green eyes. For several moments, before he swallows and his expression is neutral once again.
But he is the first to break the gaze, his head tilting down and slightly to the side.]
You do me a kindness. Thank you. I...have done terrible things before ending up in Thanos' service, but I would not speak of them now.
[Then back up to meet her eyes.]
Someday. And you are stronger than you think, to not lose yourself in his service either. You were trying to survive. Lay the blame where it belongs, on him. Not on you--your choice was taken from you the minute he kidnapped you.
[Some would call her a fool for having any empathy for this man. Gamora has seen the worst life has to offer. She has lived horrors that are better left unsaid. What else can she do but, feel the pain of others? She gives them the mercy she never knew. She offers them the grace she stubbornly refuses to give herself. Gamora nods in response to his thanks. She doesn't pry into his past. It doesn't matter. Both their hands are soaked with blood.
The rest has her looking down at her rings again. She ponders his words carefully.]
I do blame him for stealing another man's child and forcing them to call him 'Father.' I blame him for ripping me apart and putting me back together countless times in the name of making me stronger. I blame him for all the death and destruction he has brought to our people and countless others. My choices... that is more difficult. Some would say the honorable thing to do in my position would be to die. I agreed with them at points.
[Hence her comments during their dance. She won't spell it out for him. It seems unnecessarily cruel.] I am glad to be free of him now. That we both are.
Dying is the easy way out, unless it's in battle. Better you should live and perhaps suffer by attempting to make amends. Think of that as an alternate viewpoint--although suffering itself without purpose is no more nobler or honorable than dying as an easy way out.
[He understands well what she's saying. Ultimately it's her life, but she has done him a kindness or two. So he'll attempt to do so in turn--and Kind was not always 'nice'.]
[Gamora's brows knit together as she truly takes what he is saying to heart. It is a bitter truth, but one she accepted once. Grief made her lose sight of it until now.] That is what I thought before he took me again. I have spent the past few years trying to make it right. Every time I confronted someone like Thanos, I stopped them with my family. I could not stop him. I must make peace with that.
[Her eyes meet his sharply.] That is not your concern. Thank you again for listening to me. I know I have taken much of your time. I think now we are prepared to do this together so it isn't wasted.
[That startles a laugh from Gamora. It's true. He doesn't have people to rule. No one is expecting her to save the galaxy. What else do they have to do?
He makes a point she can agree with. They are better off doing this together considering what they share in common is love for a young girl.] Is that an order or challenge, Prince?
There is nothing else. [Gamora rises to her feet with a smile still on her lips.] The peasant will be working on tea to lure little girls out of hiding. I trust you have a strategy of your own.
What makes you think I'm not the one helping her get better at hiding?
[With a chuckle and smirk. Alice was more than clever and intelligent enough to hide on her own. She didn't need Loki's help, though she'd have it if she wanted. Still, he escorted Gamora out at least.]
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Date: 2024-01-05 12:25 am (UTC)As for the rest, as long as we can both come to an understanding on what's best for Alice we'll survive each other. I constantly fought with the men who helped me parent Groot, especially the man I later took as a partner. We always did what was best for him. That was why it worked.
[Gamora adds:] I still think bringing a baby into battle was foolish.
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Date: 2024-01-05 12:29 am (UTC)When I first met Alice, I did tell her that I won't necessarily give her 'good' advice. But I shall try to not give her bad advice. We were having a conversation involving choosing our trouble. The 'good' advice would be to 'stay out of trouble' all together. But neither she nor I would likely follow that...
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Date: 2024-01-05 12:51 am (UTC)It's just as well. I can make a habit of getting you both out of it. It's what I did with the family I found after Thanos.
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Date: 2024-01-05 12:53 am (UTC)[There's a slow smirk, a hint of pride but also amusement, with his next words.]
I'm rather good at getting out of trouble, whether it's my own or other's, as well. At least you and Alice seem the types to appreciate trickery and illusion being useful instead of always depending on brute force.
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Date: 2024-01-05 01:39 am (UTC)[She wistfully and decides to state plainly:] I do appreciate the skills you bring to this home.
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Date: 2024-01-05 01:43 am (UTC)Well, they weren't often appreciated much growing up. Magic, and illusions and tricks, were not seen as becoming of a warrior, much less a Prince. But they served well enough to get us out of trouble as often as we got into it too. Nor was it all my own fault for the trouble either.
Until I regain those skills though, we'll have to rely on my intelligence and cunning. But I value your wider experience with things among the universe.
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Date: 2024-01-06 02:11 am (UTC)[She doesn't have her enhancements back yet. In all fairness, she hasn't asked for them. She only swallowed her pride to get back her sword when they started going after the dragons. It'll take something just as big for her to try to get back all the changes Thanos made to her physiology.]
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Date: 2024-01-06 02:26 am (UTC)[There's a long pause, as he's clearly considering something. Before making blue-green eyes meet her own.]
It has been a new experience, being here--and having people respect and value what I can do. To not treat me as wrong, or different, or the eternal tag-a-long. I was never 'enough'. Never 'worthy'.
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Date: 2024-01-07 05:24 am (UTC)The Jotun have never been popular among the greater galaxy either. Gamora takes these things into careful consideration as she forms a reply. It means something he has trusted her with this. Much like Peter before him, she doesn't betray or dismiss that vulnerability.] There are prejudices everywhere but, not among us as far as I can tell. Take this as the opportunity it is. People here will continue to see you as you are.
[She twirls one of her rings, forces herself to maintain eye contact, and decides to elaborate.] To me, you survived Thanos with your soul intact. You still allow yourself to care for someone as vulnerable as a Terran girl after seeing his horrors up close. You have enough wisdom to understand that very few wished to be in his service willingly.
I will not speak ill of the people you lost and were meant to lead once. I can only say I cannot agree with them. You have shown honor and strength under circumstances that have destroyed others. That has great value in my eyes.
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Date: 2024-01-07 05:34 am (UTC)But he is the first to break the gaze, his head tilting down and slightly to the side.]
You do me a kindness. Thank you. I...have done terrible things before ending up in Thanos' service, but I would not speak of them now.
[Then back up to meet her eyes.]
Someday. And you are stronger than you think, to not lose yourself in his service either. You were trying to survive. Lay the blame where it belongs, on him. Not on you--your choice was taken from you the minute he kidnapped you.
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Date: 2024-01-11 03:59 am (UTC)The rest has her looking down at her rings again. She ponders his words carefully.]
I do blame him for stealing another man's child and forcing them to call him 'Father.' I blame him for ripping me apart and putting me back together countless times in the name of making me stronger. I blame him for all the death and destruction he has brought to our people and countless others. My choices... that is more difficult. Some would say the honorable thing to do in my position would be to die. I agreed with them at points.
[Hence her comments during their dance. She won't spell it out for him. It seems unnecessarily cruel.] I am glad to be free of him now. That we both are.
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Date: 2024-01-13 02:18 am (UTC)[He understands well what she's saying. Ultimately it's her life, but she has done him a kindness or two. So he'll attempt to do so in turn--and Kind was not always 'nice'.]
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Date: 2024-01-14 01:58 am (UTC)[Her eyes meet his sharply.] That is not your concern. Thank you again for listening to me. I know I have taken much of your time. I think now we are prepared to do this together so it isn't wasted.
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Date: 2024-01-14 02:02 am (UTC)[There's sarcasm in it, but he hadn't minded.]
Whether we like it or not, we have common interests and investments. Better we work together than at odds with each other towards common goals.
[Loki tilted his head up, letting some pride in his features and also some challenge.]
Be stronger than he made you to be, by being yourself and your own person.
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Date: 2024-01-14 02:48 am (UTC)He makes a point she can agree with. They are better off doing this together considering what they share in common is love for a young girl.] Is that an order or challenge, Prince?
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Date: 2024-01-14 02:56 am (UTC)[He maintained the haughty attitude and posture, but there was mischief in blue-green eyes.]
A challenge, since you'll likely respond better to that. But if it needs to be an order, well...
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Date: 2024-01-14 04:25 am (UTC)[She adds generously:] I am willing to accept a challenge.
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Date: 2024-01-14 04:28 am (UTC)[Loki might be having a bit of fun himself. With her acquiescence to it being a challenge he just nods. Then lets some of that haughtiness drop.]
More seriously, was there anything else you needed or wanted to discuss?
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Date: 2024-01-14 04:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-01-14 05:00 am (UTC)[With a chuckle and smirk. Alice was more than clever and intelligent enough to hide on her own. She didn't need Loki's help, though she'd have it if she wanted. Still, he escorted Gamora out at least.]