[Loki was pleased to see the other figure out what Loki was trying to say and teach him. There was pride in the statement and smile for Seto.]
Take any lesson from it you can, take what suits you and what you want that won't hurt you, and then treat the rest as no more than an illusion. And I'm here to listen, if you want to speak about it.
[One half of that smile turned wry.]
If you'd like, I can even muse with you on the nature of fate versus free will, or tell you of the wyrd, and we can conjecture all we like about the various possibilities.
I've never liked the idea of being controlled by fate.
[ It's said quickly, like he thinks about this a Lot. ]
For a while my life was plagued by...ancient magic. I hated acknowledging it, but I was cursed by it often enough. A whole war from ancient Egypt started up again when the relics the ghosts were sealed in were unearthed. A classmate was possessed by the spirit of a trickster pharaoh...who claimed I was the reincarnation of the priest who'd been his devotee and rival, and that the priest's influence created me.
I've seen visions and I sympathize with the priest and his fallen lover, I guess. But the idea that everything about me was decided thousands of years ago...I hate it.
[Loki listens, and then chuckles softly. Reaching out to clap Kaiba on the shoulder affectionately. Keeping that hand there.]
This is part of why I like you, by the way. I'm very much not fond of the idea that my life is not my own and subject to my own choices. I'm not surprised you're similar.
[That made Loki chuckle more, and a squeeze was given to Kaiba's shoulder before he pulled back.]
I should probably worry about how often the Wyrd has come up lately. It's difficult to explain though. We do not have gods, in Asgard, the way you would think of. We have clergy, though I didn't interact much outside of official duties. But the powers we looked to were the Norns, who would be priestesses essentially with three principle ones being closer to myth and legend and 'god' as you might think of it, and then the Wyrd.
The Wyrd isn't a they. It's...a hard to explain concept. It can be translated as Fate, or Destiny, but those are too simplistic for it alone. Those terms also imply an active control, which there is and is not.
[This would make sense in a bit. Promise.]
The norns are beings who are of the Wyrd, in that they interpret it and potentially create it or manage it. There are different types of Norns, and one can be appointed to the position, but they are always female. There are three principle norns of legend though, who are the closest I'd say we had to gods the way other people do. Urdr, Verdandi, and Skuld.
[There waiter approached with their drinks, non alcoholic for Kaiba but ale for Loki.]
Mind you, I'm no fan of the idea that my life and choices are not my own to make or control.
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Date: 2024-02-08 04:07 am (UTC)[Loki was pleased to see the other figure out what Loki was trying to say and teach him. There was pride in the statement and smile for Seto.]
Take any lesson from it you can, take what suits you and what you want that won't hurt you, and then treat the rest as no more than an illusion. And I'm here to listen, if you want to speak about it.
[One half of that smile turned wry.]
If you'd like, I can even muse with you on the nature of fate versus free will, or tell you of the wyrd, and we can conjecture all we like about the various possibilities.
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Date: 2024-02-09 01:53 am (UTC)[ It's said quickly, like he thinks about this a Lot. ]
For a while my life was plagued by...ancient magic. I hated acknowledging it, but I was cursed by it often enough. A whole war from ancient Egypt started up again when the relics the ghosts were sealed in were unearthed. A classmate was possessed by the spirit of a trickster pharaoh...who claimed I was the reincarnation of the priest who'd been his devotee and rival, and that the priest's influence created me.
I've seen visions and I sympathize with the priest and his fallen lover, I guess. But the idea that everything about me was decided thousands of years ago...I hate it.
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Date: 2024-02-09 02:02 am (UTC)This is part of why I like you, by the way. I'm very much not fond of the idea that my life is not my own and subject to my own choices. I'm not surprised you're similar.
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Date: 2024-02-09 02:29 am (UTC)Same here. I'd love to hear your philosophical thoughts if we have the time, by the way.
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Date: 2024-02-09 10:18 pm (UTC)I should probably worry about how often the Wyrd has come up lately. It's difficult to explain though. We do not have gods, in Asgard, the way you would think of. We have clergy, though I didn't interact much outside of official duties. But the powers we looked to were the Norns, who would be priestesses essentially with three principle ones being closer to myth and legend and 'god' as you might think of it, and then the Wyrd.
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Date: 2024-02-12 12:56 am (UTC)The Wyrd...what were they like?
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Date: 2024-02-12 02:46 am (UTC)[This would make sense in a bit. Promise.]
The norns are beings who are of the Wyrd, in that they interpret it and potentially create it or manage it. There are different types of Norns, and one can be appointed to the position, but they are always female. There are three principle norns of legend though, who are the closest I'd say we had to gods the way other people do. Urdr, Verdandi, and Skuld.
[There waiter approached with their drinks, non alcoholic for Kaiba but ale for Loki.]
Mind you, I'm no fan of the idea that my life and choices are not my own to make or control.
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Date: 2024-02-12 03:52 am (UTC)[ Seto takes his drink and has a thought or two. ]
Then...a strong enough will must be able to write its own story, right? To make one's voice heard over the noise. It has to be possible.
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Date: 2024-02-12 04:25 am (UTC)[Loki had already made his view on it known; twice now even.]
As I've also said before, I see parts of myself within you, and would rather you not make some of the mistakes that I have.